It doesn't have to be crafted by the narrative to be "the" moment. My point here is that Signature Scene usually boils down to things like awesome lines, cool reveals, or just a specific moment that sticks with fans for one reason or another. It's, again, the scene that's almost endlessly been parodied and referenced, even if it's not a climatic scene, but just a well-crafted suspense scene. I'll use another example that's just a cool scene - the T-Rex stomping scene from the first Jurassic Park. but it wasn't a climatic moment, just a shocking reveal that didn't really impact the actual plot of that arc, to the point where most of the relevant information came from the arc prior. It's been given fan art, fan videos, and everyone and their mother knows about what happened in that scene. There's a scene in the third arc that is so infamous it's universally referred to as "the fire scene" despite there being multiple fire scenes in basically every arc. Sure, it's the dramatic climax, but my point is that being a dramatic climax doesn't inherently make the scene more memorable.Īnother example I'll point to comes from Warrior Cats. May her Wonderland be ever safe in memory | Sweet dreams are made of meat The best word for the second one is clearly "memetic", but I think "signature" and "iconic" are too close to synonymous to make distinguishing them practical.Įdited by Noaqiyeum on Dec 17th 2022 at 6:01:10 PM The first two don't have to overlap (because the author and audience don't have to agree in what's important), but generally anything in the third category will necessarily be all three Star Trek associates Spock with the Vulcan salute, fans imitate it because they like Spock, and non-fans recognise it as a Star Trek thing because it's repeated by the fandom and in advertising. "things that become definitive shorthand references to the entire artwork, in popular culture or by other works, especially if even people who have never seen the original can recognise them" (e.g."things that the fandom picks up and repeats to each other" (e.g.Signature Move, Iconic Outfit, Memetic Hand Gesture, Leitmotif) "things the artwork repeats to identify its own characters, locations, themes, etc, and associate them with each other" (e.g.I think the distinctions I'd make are similar to Amonimus: May not be the best example because Star Wars may not have enforced it through repetition but it certainly did make it the dramatic climax of the film. The scene of Vader and Luke isn't the signature because the work itself pushed it to be it's the signature because it's memorable and has become so widely known in pop-culture that it's what people think of and reference when they think of and reference Star Wars. Rant aside I'd Memetic Hand Gesture for YMMV.Įdited by Amonimus on Dec 17th 2022 at 11:55:03 PM "Meme X": YMMV, something changed in fanworks.īut naturally we can't do something that big at once.Without would just be Memetics in Fiction. "Memetic X": In-Universe tropes about spreading a message."Signature X": In-Universe tropes about unique traits."Iconic X": YMMV, something the audience know the work for.Tbh, if I had a magic "force rename" stick, I'd rename the tropes to follow: Works and "works" at Memetic Mutation that should really be separated from tropes: X Called They Want Their Y Back - Not YMMV, ( Stock Phrases). (Mixes In-Universe characters messing up quotes and Beam Me Up, Scotty!)
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